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  • Mood: It's Hot
  • Listening to: Gotan Project / Goran Bregovic
  • Reading: Found Magazine
  • Watching: The Godfather Part I
  • Playing: music
  • Eating: penguins
  • Drinking: loads
I used to be a Microsoft Windows XP user and it took me fucking ages before I finally decided to switch from Internet Explorer to Firefox. But it opened my eyes... When I moved on to Mac, the first thing I did was installing my beloved Firefox, browsing the Internet for hours. Firefox was the one and only future, and most of all: it was free. Easy to use, never crashing, I fell in love with it and we started a passionate love affair. I was faithful and promised myself not to ever use any other web browser.

That was until today. Today I realised that my beloved Firefox is actually a stoopid piece of software that does not understand embedded color profiles, in three words it simply: fucks them up.

After spending about four hours calibrating my screen and reading about color profiles, I have come to realise that as much as I used to adore and cherish Firefox, maybe it is time for me to move on... and give Safari a try. :blush:

For all of you mac users that will not get convinced by this revelation, go have a look at this: WEB BROWSER COLOR MANAGEMENT Tutorial. Found it really useful and it made me realise why so many pictures look desaturated/washed out when viewed with web browsers such as Firefox, Camino etc. As for the others, well go check it out too. Because I said so. :aww:


I'm sorry Firefox, you served me well but all good things come to an end. :heart:
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:iconguns:
~guns Jun 18, 2008  Hobbyist Photographer
Just for information : [link]

And with FF3 out yesterday, you have now no excuse to use it again (except that you can prefer Safari, as I prefer Opera ^^)

Love,
Guns
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:iconguns:
~guns Jun 18, 2008  Hobbyist Photographer
et pourquoi je te ré;pond en anglais moi -_-
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:iconcrinklechip:
Yeah. So Firefox 3 will support colour management. But will that solve the problems of 99% of PeopleOutThere™ viewing your pictures on something else?

Just convert to sRGB and be done with it.
Then relax.
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:iconmergana:
It will solve some problems indeed.

sRGB? If only it was that easy...
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:iconcrinklechip:
What's not easy about it? Convert everything to sRGB for viewing on the interweb and use Adobe RGB for anything that needs printing. Or Profoto RGB if you've got a really fancy printer.
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:iconmergana:
Adobe RGB is very shit when it comes to printing as it does not print look the same printed. At all.
And about sRGB, even though I convert my photos to sRGB, which I've been doing for a very long time, they still don't look the same on the web, when browsing with Firefox, but they come out perfectly fine when using Safari. I'm just going for the easiest solution really. :)
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:iconcrinklechip:
And how many people use Safari? About 3?

Adobe RGB is easily the best profile to use for decent photo printing. It's recommended by iStockphoto as the one the contributors embed their files with. It's best for printing on decent inkjets like the modern Epsons and HP's as it most closely matches their own gamuts. You have to know what you're doing with it though, or else it will indeed look shit. Much like putting an Adobe RGB tagged image on the web. It's also the best for retaining decent colours during conversion to CMYK. Believe me, I've sent stuff to print on high-end lightjets to litho to 25 metre banners printed on mesh.

You'll never get accurate colours on everyone's monitors, but the safest bet is to convert to sRGB. It's the lowest common denominator.
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:iconmergana:
Indeed, which is why I do it. Still, it doesn't always look right, especially on Firefox. Few people only use Safari, that's fair enough. But I'm not making my pictures viewable on Safari only, it's just that I'd rather use a web browser that displays colors correctly. :) My own personal choice. I don't blame people using Firefox. :D
And about Adobe RGB, every single time I've printed from an Adobe RGB file, the print looked different, no matter where it was printed or who printed it. At the same time, I don't necessarily get my pictures printed at the most expensive places around here, considering it was only for uni stuff. So yeah, I dunno.
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:iconcrinklechip:
If I'm sending photos of family days out at the zoo off to Photobox.com, or taking them into Jessops or wherever, I don't bother with Adobe RGB. In fact, I make sure they aren't as those printers don't look for colour profiles and they'll end up looking shitty. So I convert them to sRGB. If I'm printing on my £62 Epson inkjet I'll print from Adobe RGB files and go through the correct procedure when printing and they come out looking wonderful. But you have to go through the right procedure, you can't just press ';print'. OHHHH NO sister, they wouldn't make it that easy now.

And Adobe RGB files displayed in a browser look right dull and dark. Untill Safari and Firefox 3, but only you and I will be able to appreciate their beauty. Everyone else will say they look dull and dark.

I'm going to have a cup of tea and a Cadbury's Picnic.
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:iconmergana:
Well then I will enjoy this precious that is to feel : enlightened. :D
Enjoy your cup of tea. I actually am going to have a cup of tea too. Pineapple tea as I have no pineapple cider.
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